RoamResearch embraces the chaos, Tana can get you out of the chaos. 😼
【开箱】全新双链笔记，Tana 构建万物，用于万物
Adding my thoughts on @Tana_inc, originally posted in the #RoamCN group
• I underestimated Tana 😜
• @RoamResearch embraces the chaos, Tana can get you out of the chaos. 😼
• If you like to keep information/data structured, you should be biased towards Tana, so Tana's goal feels more like trying to do teamwork, vs Notion
• IMHO, Structure must come from Chaos and originate from Empty. 🤔
• For example, from a personal point of view, every day I will open Daily Notes (blank/empty)
• 1. after using RR for a long time, it must produce templates, such as Morning Routines, Habit Tracking, Project Progress, etc.
https://www.austinrileygray.com/blog/roam-research-for-daily-productivity
• 2. after some patterns are fixed, you will want to abstract a concept, create a new entity, such as Reading Notes, CRM, etc.
• 3. you must have used attr:: the way to define some meta data in Roam, this is actually a kind of structured
https://www.nateliason.com/blog/roam
• 4. so, Tana's most core optimization is to abstract this pattern into 'Supertag'
• 5. where an ordinary block/note plus supertag, it becomes a structured data (I call it 'atom' well, can be organized to Molecules · Organisms, ref Atomic Design)
https://www.cortexfutura.com/supertag-basics-tana-fundamentals/
• 6. then based on these structured data, Tana can do N*many things: e.g. multi-view UIs (Different views)
- currently supports Kanban, Tables, Lists, Tabs, etc.,
- image the future, to support Grid, Whiteboard, Mind Maps, even Sudoku, etc. are natural)
https://app.tana.inc/?nodeid=7FuBeJOXBq
• 7. The cooler features: live query, command line, etc., you can quickly query these structured data through natural language.
actually, this can also be considered the optimization of query in Roam
https://app.tana.inc/?nodeid=zFyUfaQ8OR
• To sum up, 🙌 Roam's attr:: and query and even {{table, kanban, diagram}} have the prototype of a texting graph database.
But they are like a defective product, not so usable, but only v0.1 version.
• I believe that in Conor's vision, not without wanting to make attr::, query, diagram and event other features better, but the development schedule is really pulling 😂
• A strategy for scaling up, relying on the plugin mechanism, actually this is already presented a hundred #roamcult community.
If there is no roam/js, roam/css hack way to polish the product, the #roamcult vibe would not have been able to get popular.
• But for the fanatics who are passionate about Roam optimization:
- how can they be satisfied with a jigsaw 🧩 with roam/js or Roam Depot?
- or how can they resist the temptation to recreate another 'Roam Research', with the added benefit of capital?
• Tana, in terms of functionality, does complement some of the unfinished functions of the Roam graph database, and can probably be called a complete v0.75, with a promising future.
• So, as a USER, you should ask yourself:
1. how often do you use and query in Roam?
2. and how many views of Notion's database do you use?
• If you don't use these functions much, you probably can't use Tana even if it is well done.
• Of course, it's okay to play around with the new toy.
But remember the first trick to overcome #efficiency_addiction (or #[[Productivity Porn]] ):
Deliberately distinguish between playing with toys and using tools.
• Of course this thread was written inside @RoamResearch and then posted via @Typefully
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